Pronunciation is not predictable in English. It may be more predictable in other languages, but there are many situations in English where the same sequence of letters can make a different sound altogether. The obvious disadvantage is that it can make the language much more difficult to learn. However, there is an advantage to unpredictable pronunciation. It can improve reading comprehensibility by keeping the spelling stable. Here's an example: note the different sounds of "s" for the words cats and dogs. The former takes an s sound and the latter takes a z sound, but both are spelled with s.
Some more fun with sounds and spelling
Note the bolded letters in the following sentence all make a different sound, despite the identical spelling:
She said you laid the plaid tie on the chair.
In the following word pairs, just one letter is changed but the pronunciation is significantly altered:
encourage -> entourage
revenges -> revenues
karate -> karats
hideous -> hideout
ballets -> bullets
telephone -> telephony
Monday, October 22, 2007
Sounds vs. spelling
Posted by john at Monday, October 22, 2007
Categories: phonetics, pronunciation, spelling, spelling reform
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Wow.. that is interesting. I bet english is a tough language to master. There are so many inconsistencies and exceptions that you would have to learn if it wasn't your native language.
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different places ... different pronunciation ... US english is very different than in England.
Although you have mentioned one advantage of the irregular spelling of English, with your example concerning "cats" and "dogs", I still feel that some sort of spelling reform could improve things. It has been shown more that once that languages with more regular spelling systems make it easier for children to learn, and the frequency of dyslexia is significantly less in those languages (e.g. Turkish and Spanish).
The difficulty is reconciling different pronunciation standards across English speaking countries, but some sort of compromise could be reached between the most important of these, e.g. General American and RP British English.
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Concerning this particular post, I would suggest that the pronunciation of plural forms of nouns ending in "s" is actually quite predictable. It is pronounced as "s" for nouns whose singular form ends in a voiceless consonant, and as "z" for nouns whose singular form ends in a voiced consonant. People do not have to think about this when pronouncing the words because it's a natural articulatory process (just try making a "z" sound after a voiceless consonant, or an "s" sound after a voiced one, and you'll notice that it requires considerable conscious effort!) However, as you so well pointed out, choosing to write "s" as the plural morpheme no matter which way it's pronounced makes the spelling of these plural nouns stable, consistent, and easier to learn.
That's an interesting point you brought up.. The English language may not be predictable, but at least it's stable,, And it's very helpful that way.
These are some really interesting suggestions. Im rather curious at your eduction level, im sure its really high to know all this stuff. As a university graduate i still don't know all of this. But then again i chose a business course. Nice work. Keep doing it.
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They say that English is one of the hardest languages to master. I am happy that it is my native language, but I find other languages to be equally difficult.
i can see that you are quite passionate about linguistic :)
I never noticed that before, wierd.
I so like your posts, they're very educational. But I noticed you haven't been posting. More posts please.
American English is diffirent from British English. Its all about the dipthongs which differentiates one nationality from the others.
And I want to ask you to write more this kind of posts, everything else doesnt metter, I will live on your blog. :)
I remember training for it once in my speech class and found out its really hard hahaha
i get the rhythm. english words sometime so difficult to understand if not properly pronounce
what about the level of literacy/spelling nowadays?
can you always find out what the author tries to say when he writes
"there" (supposed to be their).
ex: on there workplace
is it a new English or am I just an old fashioned guy?
Ya me too I am happy that it is my native language, but I find other languages to be equally difficult.
Very informative post. Thank you!
US english is very different than in England.
Great blog with interesting topics! Keep it up!
English is not as easy as perceived to learn and teach(I was watching a movie "Good Morning Vietnam" yesterday.
intresting, would not have thought about it that way myself.
Is there any hard and fast rules... i took notice once with "But" and "put" and tried to figure out.
Just trying to read that sentence sure is hard!
Concerning this particular post, I would suggest that the pronunciation of plural forms of nouns ending in "s" is actually quite predictable. It is pronounced as "s" for nouns whose singular form ends in a voiceless consonant, and as "z" for nouns whose singular form ends in a voiced consonant. People do not have to think about this when pronouncing the words because it's a natural articulatory process (just try making a "z" sound after a voiceless consonant, or an "s" sound after a voiced one, and you'll notice that it requires considerable conscious effort!) However, as you so well pointed out, choosing to write "s" as the plural morpheme no matter which way it's pronounced makes the spelling of these plural nouns stable, consistent, and easier to learn.
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Your right about some english words being spelt the same but pronounced differently according to context.
I read a book. I will read a book.
but some of the examples you give are actually words from different languages which is why they're pronounced differently.
entourage = french
ballet = french
karate = chinese?
Funny, Gallagher does a bit on this.
It is funny how in the US different words spelled the same are pronounced different in various areas of the country. I live in the Ozarks now and they tend to say things how they look. But when I lived in the Rockies the spelling was not a good clue on how the word was spoken.
Thats an interesting point, but I feel english is one of the most stable language.
Thats an interesting view of yours.English is a tough language to master because its quite different in various part of the world.
Is like asking a Chinesse to speak fluent chinesse after he has been living in U.S for many years. Definitely good point.
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English is one of the toughest languages to learn yet so many non-native speakers do take the time to do so. While many English speakers just feel that others should conform to their language. I applaud schools that make second language a requirement.
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This is a great post. English is not tough but as American english is different than British so it makes confusion in the minds of new english learners.
It is very usful.Thanks for the interesting post.Great job.
Where I live everything is spelled exactly as it sounds. If people here travel elsewhere, they pronounce it as it is spelled.
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There should be rules for pronunciation no matter what country they speak englich.
I really get confused with pronunciations some times, especially american vs british!
american English is diffirent from British English
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Yes this is really funny you can say the same word with different sounds and it will spell differently. Makes for interesting reading.
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As a special needs teacher of pupils with dyslexia it would be so much easier for them (and me!)if English had a more phonetic and logical spelling system. If you look at many German words they are so simply put together by just adding words one after the other to make one large word to describe something and the words are basically written as they sound.
Yes it's totally true, this shows that one got to read and speak more to get used to this kind of special words as it's really hard to guess the sounds.
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that is interesting. I bet english is a tough language to master. but at least it's stable,, And it's very helpful that way.
Wow that is interesting, you often take it for granted being a native english speaker.
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Really a good example.But talking about English language its difficult to understand its spelling formation rules.
Anyways me too not having convenient example for that when I will be having it i will post it.
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it seems that some english pronunciations remain in the french form that the word came from ie english speakers pronounce "entourage" almost correctly as a French word, esp the "en" morpheme pronounced "OHN", but when it comes to encourage, no "French-ness" remains.
I wonder how some French pronunciations have remained in English speech and how some have dissipated into rules that have no rhyme or reason.
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The obvious disadvantage is that it can make the language much more difficult to learn. However, there is an advantage to unpredictable pronunciation.
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Yeah, and there are also lots or silent letters on words. Usually it depends on the accent of the speaker how to pronounce a word.
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Yes, this is something unique in English language. At times, spelling looks different as compared to how the word is pronounced.
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it's a sad reflection that as a fairly well educated, degree hiolder I can't even remember any of this stuff and I certainly don't think they covered this at my school.
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as we know that every country have different way to speak in english . different places make different pronunciation . english , USA , and other always have unique spelling
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